JOHN HERRIN (REZ BAND, JESUS PEOPLE, CORNERSTONE) - John is probably one of the most influential figures that people are not aware of. He has been in the background of everything but something tells me he has really been the guy who held a lot of stuff together. Glenn Kaiser is the most known member of REZ (we will be interviewing him soon) but John was right there with him. He is still a member of JPUSA (Jesus People USA) and he runs the MASSIVE Cornerstone Festival.
John still looks the way he did 30 years ago, a rockin' sweet beard, long hair and big smile. He has a great raspy voice and EXUDES that sweet hippie love that the world is so lacking today. REZ was a ministry band that started, not to make money, but to spread the message. Their goals were to play for as many people as possible and get enough money to have gas to get to the next town. He had some AWESOME stories about the good old days when they would roll up to a town, set up the tent and rock until people stopped coming. He recounted spending 4, 5 even 6 days in one small town with thousands of people sometimes showing up. Their music was considered WAY too hard for mass consumption and the only Christian distribution at the time was for straight up gospel but when they finally recorded an album (thanks to a generous donation of a friend) a small, unknown label released it. It was a hit in the Christian market and it really helped open the door for others to walk thru. As a band, they never shied away from controversial issues. By now, we have all heard of the horrors of apartheid (you kiddos who are too young to know, look it up) but it was not Bono or even Peter Gabriel before him to first tackle the issue, it was Rez Band. Make you wonder doesnt it? Where are the Christian bands that are on the forefront of real world issues NOW? John set the stage for the REZ story and I am sure Kaiser will bring it home when we talk to him.
CORNERSTONE FESTIVAL - Technically, this is more from John's interview but it is really a separate topic. I have to be honest, I was a youth group kid and I had NO IDEA this world existed. Turns out that while I was at the Mabee Center at ORU kicking it to CARMAN'S "Witches Invitation" there were 40,000 kids in a field in Illinois banging their head to underground Christian music that I had never heard of. Just about every single artist we talk to has something good to say about Cornerstone and its significance. It was the ONE place where a hard rock band, that was used to playing basement shows for 100 kids, could come play for 10,000 plus screaming, fanatical, on fire for Jesus, die-hards. This last year was my first time to go and I found that besides bands, they have speakers, prayer tents, cold showers, a sweet lake, copious amounts of dust, a film festival and the most impressive collection of porta-potties I have ever seen. It was really crazy but also, really awesome. Beside the 300+ bands that officially play, there were little unsanctioned "generator" stages all over the place. It was intense but fascinating. This year "Underoath" put on a crazy show but I have countless interviews with people that cover just about every memorable event ever at C-stone.
I also encountered my first in-person protester who stood outside the gates of C-stone with a sign that read "Cornerstone Dishonors God." He was soft spoken but stubborn and I caught several fairly intense interactions with festival goers on tape. His take is still that the Devil is using this music and it has invaded the Christian world. One kid (with seriously, the sweetest beard yet) was very intense with the protester, "God says, 'I am not an electric guitar?!?!'... rock'n'roll is just a thing!" The protester went on to say that there should be a clear division between secular and Christian music and just when I thought the guy was actually going to make a compelling argument, he decided to bust out with, "women preachers are against biblical teachings and...oh by the way, all Catholics are going to hell." Great dude, there goes my Mel Gibson endorsement.
John also talked about how the JPUSA bus broke down outside of Chicago so they decided to set-up shop there and in 1984 they decided to start Cornerstone. Word got out and it just got bigger and bigger. Many bands launched careers thru Cornerstone and many kids got to exposed to tons of great music (and dust) they would have never heard. In the words of Carman, "Satan, Bite the Dust!" http://youtube.com/watch?v=SswiYEXZrIg
JON DAVIS (SUPERDRAG) - First off, I loved the power-pop sounds of Superdrag (word on the street is that they may be getting back together) and when they fell off the map, I wasnt sure why. When I caught up with Jon at Cornerstone, he had plenty to say. I was not familiar with the story but he said he had become a very dark person and had a terrible addiction to "many" things but alcohol had a stranglehold on him. He said that he was driving one night and reflecting on his life and realized he had hit rock bottom. He said he cried out to God and felt his prayers were answered. Almost immediately, he was able to get his life on track and even though things were going well with Superdrag, he said his heart was no longer in it. "I just didnt feel right getting up there singing songs I wrote when I was drunk or partying, when that part of me was now dead and gone." He said he didnt feel that Superdrag was going to cause him to fall back into that life but he did feel that he would never have peace or passion continuing on with the band. Since he was the lead singer, lead guitar and main songwriter...that meant the end for Superdrag. He said it was rough on his band mates but they ultimately understood. Jon speaks of the peace and humility he has now. He makes most his living from being a studio musician or background guy in other bands and his solo stuff is very much about his newfound faith and the gifts he feels God has for us all. If the rumors of Superdrag re-uniting are true, maybe Jon is ready to step back into that role, with new songs that speak more about who he is now. Because he is a phenomenal songwriter and musician, I am sure he will be welcomed back with open arms, even by those who dont "get" his new lifestyle.
Thursday, May 17, 2007
Sunday, May 13, 2007
Petra, needtobreathe & Cool Hand Luke
JOHN SCHLITT (PETRA) - this was one of the very first interviews we did and I hadnt developed the "style" for the doc yet. I set up a gorgeous CSI:Miami looking interview and at the last second we were told we had 20 minutes and the interview had to be done in an old locker room about 10 flights of stairs away...DOH! I have since decided to go very RAW, almost hand-held with the interviews, as many are on the fly. It will annoy some but...I think it works. For those who dont know, Schlitt was the lead singer for Petra after Greg Volz left. There is a big debate about pre and post Volz Petra but I love it all. I always thought it would be great for them to make Petra bumper stickers that said, "Schlitt Happens!" but that was too out of the box then I guess. John was very open about the fact that they were not trying to push the creative envelope, instead, they had their ear to the ground to see what was happening in the general market so they could offer a positive but relevant alternative. Say what you will, but I thought Petra was "the Schlitt." I still have the War & Remembrance box set on my ipod and many of those songs creep into the most played from time to time. You have not lived until you have heard "Beyond Belief" followed by some Imogen Heap. John talked of "other" bands (uhh...Stryper maybe?) who took the wrong approach he thought, especially at the time. Remember, this was at the height of Christian sub-culture... Carman, the Power Team, Bill Gothard, etc. were filling arenas and STADIUMS across the country. There was no such thing as "crossing over" then.
John also talked about a part of his life most Christian rock fans are completely ignorant of, his time as lead singer of Head East, one of the original hard rock bands. They were never HUGE but they went Gold and had a bunch of top 100 hits. The rock and roll lifestyle lead him to the point of drug addiction and even a contemplation of suicide before he became a Christian and joined Petra.
BO & BEAR RINEHART (needtobreathe) - Okay, so a couple months ago, I had no idea who these guys were. People started asking me if I had heard of them, then more people started asking...so I decided to check them out. Their CD is terrific, "You Are Here" and "Shine On" are about as good as pop rock gets. The album seems to have some British influence but after talking to the brothers Rinehart, I am going to say that has more to do with the producer (the guy who produced Keane). When they performed the songs live, I thought they had even more heart than the album tracks. Sorry UK'ers but southern charm speaks louder to me than the Queen's English. At any rate...get this record! On to the interview...
These guys are proud of their faith but also clearly on a mission to reach all people with their music. They are passionate about music and genuinely talented, one brother was the South Carolina Player of the year in 2002 as a receiver for Furman University where he holds several records and the other brother is a gifted actor, I think he had a bit part in "RADIO." They talked about being raised as preachers kids in the small town of Possum Kingdom, SC. They were very into Christian rock and culture as kids and were well versed on all the early bands. Bear indicated that their father was very supportive of Christian rock but that occasionally an evangelist would come thru and talk about the evils of rock music. He talked about how it was the same guys who started the rumors about bands like KISS, that KISS stood for "Knights In Satan's Service" or AC/DC stood for "Anti-Christ/Devil's Children" which we now know is silly. Bear recalls being afraid of the evil that was Aerosmith as a kid, then later laughing when he saw them running around on stage with Run DMC. Bo talked about "The Prayer Chain" as a band that really stood out as cool and creative. He said you could walk into the Christian bookstore and their CD really stood out, "...it was like, cheesy, cheesy, cheesy, COOL!"
Bear had more great things to say but I zoned out for a few minutes because after weezing about 8 Diet Cokes from their dressing room (they were the squatty 6oz cans, so cut me some slack) I had a severe needtopee. He talked about his desire to not avoid the Christian market but to purposely not tailor their music to it. If all we speak is Christian-ese, then who but other Christians can really understand what we are saying? Pretty good point my Possum Kingdom friend. These are some terrific guys with amazing attitudes, I think they are going to be huge, but even if they arent, I think they will be around a long time.
By the way, the SANCTUS REAL guys were there playing with needtobreathe and I had some good talks with Matt, just the normal stuff...how messy it is to eat ribs, abortion, why promoters like to serve lasagna so much, the churches position on gays... you know, just some light chit-chat. Seriously though, Matt is a tender-heart who likes to laugh, we would prolly be good friends if we lived in the same town.
MARK NICKS (COOL HAND LUKE) - Another band I didnt know much about but they are a real hidden gem. No real words to describe CHL, ethereal, passionate, super creative... something like that. So, I am a super-nerd smart dude but Mark is freakishly smart and somehow, still really cool. He talked over my head most the time but this is a guy who loves the Lord and seems to spin everything into how every bad experience or negative is really something that is meant to challenge us. I think Mark will probably end up a preacher and if he does, I will gladly go to his church...
John also talked about a part of his life most Christian rock fans are completely ignorant of, his time as lead singer of Head East, one of the original hard rock bands. They were never HUGE but they went Gold and had a bunch of top 100 hits. The rock and roll lifestyle lead him to the point of drug addiction and even a contemplation of suicide before he became a Christian and joined Petra.
BO & BEAR RINEHART (needtobreathe) - Okay, so a couple months ago, I had no idea who these guys were. People started asking me if I had heard of them, then more people started asking...so I decided to check them out. Their CD is terrific, "You Are Here" and "Shine On" are about as good as pop rock gets. The album seems to have some British influence but after talking to the brothers Rinehart, I am going to say that has more to do with the producer (the guy who produced Keane). When they performed the songs live, I thought they had even more heart than the album tracks. Sorry UK'ers but southern charm speaks louder to me than the Queen's English. At any rate...get this record! On to the interview...
These guys are proud of their faith but also clearly on a mission to reach all people with their music. They are passionate about music and genuinely talented, one brother was the South Carolina Player of the year in 2002 as a receiver for Furman University where he holds several records and the other brother is a gifted actor, I think he had a bit part in "RADIO." They talked about being raised as preachers kids in the small town of Possum Kingdom, SC. They were very into Christian rock and culture as kids and were well versed on all the early bands. Bear indicated that their father was very supportive of Christian rock but that occasionally an evangelist would come thru and talk about the evils of rock music. He talked about how it was the same guys who started the rumors about bands like KISS, that KISS stood for "Knights In Satan's Service" or AC/DC stood for "Anti-Christ/Devil's Children" which we now know is silly. Bear recalls being afraid of the evil that was Aerosmith as a kid, then later laughing when he saw them running around on stage with Run DMC. Bo talked about "The Prayer Chain" as a band that really stood out as cool and creative. He said you could walk into the Christian bookstore and their CD really stood out, "...it was like, cheesy, cheesy, cheesy, COOL!"
Bear had more great things to say but I zoned out for a few minutes because after weezing about 8 Diet Cokes from their dressing room (they were the squatty 6oz cans, so cut me some slack) I had a severe needtopee. He talked about his desire to not avoid the Christian market but to purposely not tailor their music to it. If all we speak is Christian-ese, then who but other Christians can really understand what we are saying? Pretty good point my Possum Kingdom friend. These are some terrific guys with amazing attitudes, I think they are going to be huge, but even if they arent, I think they will be around a long time.
By the way, the SANCTUS REAL guys were there playing with needtobreathe and I had some good talks with Matt, just the normal stuff...how messy it is to eat ribs, abortion, why promoters like to serve lasagna so much, the churches position on gays... you know, just some light chit-chat. Seriously though, Matt is a tender-heart who likes to laugh, we would prolly be good friends if we lived in the same town.
MARK NICKS (COOL HAND LUKE) - Another band I didnt know much about but they are a real hidden gem. No real words to describe CHL, ethereal, passionate, super creative... something like that. So, I am a super-nerd smart dude but Mark is freakishly smart and somehow, still really cool. He talked over my head most the time but this is a guy who loves the Lord and seems to spin everything into how every bad experience or negative is really something that is meant to challenge us. I think Mark will probably end up a preacher and if he does, I will gladly go to his church...
Wednesday, May 9, 2007
Steve Taylor, HM Magazine & Maylene & the Sons of Disaster
STEVE TAYLOR - Steve entered the room at GMA and apologized in advance for not being a good interview. He said that people assume he will be good on camera but that he generally has not done well. He was wrong... he was there doing promo for the film he directed called "The Second Chance" which stars Michael W Smith (someone we will be talking to soon). Steve played a critical role in getting relevance into the genre. He directly attacked both Christians and non-Christians with his lyrics and new wave sound. He was controversial but... I think he was right. He talked about how he went after Bob Jones U. and their ban on interracial dating with "We Dont Need No Color Code" (Bob Jones has since rescinded this policy.) Steve said he heard stories about the kids at Bob Jones getting the CD in a paper bag from the music store near campus. He also went after Jimmy Swaggart in a song and Swaggart struck back in his anti-Christian rock book where Taylor got an entire chapter. He also went after Bill Gothard, TV Evangelists, pretty much everyone he thought needed to be challenged. His most controversial song was probably "I Blew Up the Clinic Real Good" about pro-life activists. It was actually pulled out of many Christian bookstores.
His aim was not solely on radical Christians, he also had songs like, "Since I Gave Up Hope I Feel a Lot Better" and "Jim Morrison's Grave", as well as "Meltdown" which was actually a mainstream hit on MTV. After he stopped performing and before he went on to direct, he ran a label for a while that launched the career of Sixpence. So yeah... this guy has done a lot.
One last thing... for a controversial figure, he could not be more meek, humble and nice. It is obvious that he limited his confrontation to his art and left it there. I dont see Steve sitting at Denny's arguing about abortion, he will leave that to others and enjoy his grand slam breakfast and OJ.
DOUG VAN PELT (HM Magazine) - I know it is getting old for me to say this but GEEEEZ, what a sweetheart Doug was. You will not find another person on planet earth that has more passion for this genre than Doug Van Pelt. He has nothing bad to say about anyone, he seems like a guy who finds the good in anything and focuses on that, even if it is only a morsel of the entire cake. The world needs more DVP's. He is another guy who knows every band out there and has a story from every show, album, festival, etc. He has run HM Magazine (originally called Heaven's Metal) for over 20 years. He came to tears twice in the interview, once when telling a story about U2. There apparently was a show where the FBI said there was a legitimate death threat to Bono. It was a show out in the open (Memphis I believe) and they could not provide good enough protection so it was recommended they cancel the show. U2 not only refused to cancel but decided to go ahead and sing the song they had been warned not to sing, "MLK." Bono grabbed the mic, fell to his knees and closed his eyes to perform the song with a hand held toward the heavens. When he opened his eyes, he saw that Adam Clayton (not a Christian at the time) was standing in front of him to shield him from harm. Doug says he was really touched by this because obviously, the way Bono lived his life had been a witness to Clayton, so much so, that he was willing to die to protect him. Pretty cool.
MAYLENE & THE SONS OF DISASTER - Another band that I had no clue what they were going into the interview. They had been described to me as "Skynyrd-core" which was pretty impossible for me to wrap my head around. I just cant keep up with all the genres, I actually think I made up a new one the other day, "countr-emo." It is Dashboard Confessional meets Toby Keith...anyway...
These guys really won me over with their genuine hearts and straight up, backwoods, dueling banjos, Deliverance, REALNESS. One of the guys, the one with the sweetest beard (and that is saying a lot as there were some sweet beards in this band) literally asked to pause for a moment because he needed to pee. We were over at Cornerstone mainstage back by the creek (where they said they would feel the most comfortable doing the interview) and he just turned away and peed. Oh to be so free. They were like Underoath in that, they are not shy about their faith but they have not had a lot of resistance. They just do what they do and they were actually shocked anyone would even care who they were, much less sit thru a concert with them, let alone pay for it. They said it started off as a fun thing, almost as a joke, but people started to respond. When prompted to tell me about their goals they universally agreed that while it is great to spread the good word, what they would really like is to make enough money to get a nicer grill to strap to the top of their van. Great guys. Next time I hear some b-rate rocker whining about how stale his papaya on the green room fruit tray is, I am going to think happy thoughts about M&TSOD.
His aim was not solely on radical Christians, he also had songs like, "Since I Gave Up Hope I Feel a Lot Better" and "Jim Morrison's Grave", as well as "Meltdown" which was actually a mainstream hit on MTV. After he stopped performing and before he went on to direct, he ran a label for a while that launched the career of Sixpence. So yeah... this guy has done a lot.
One last thing... for a controversial figure, he could not be more meek, humble and nice. It is obvious that he limited his confrontation to his art and left it there. I dont see Steve sitting at Denny's arguing about abortion, he will leave that to others and enjoy his grand slam breakfast and OJ.
DOUG VAN PELT (HM Magazine) - I know it is getting old for me to say this but GEEEEZ, what a sweetheart Doug was. You will not find another person on planet earth that has more passion for this genre than Doug Van Pelt. He has nothing bad to say about anyone, he seems like a guy who finds the good in anything and focuses on that, even if it is only a morsel of the entire cake. The world needs more DVP's. He is another guy who knows every band out there and has a story from every show, album, festival, etc. He has run HM Magazine (originally called Heaven's Metal) for over 20 years. He came to tears twice in the interview, once when telling a story about U2. There apparently was a show where the FBI said there was a legitimate death threat to Bono. It was a show out in the open (Memphis I believe) and they could not provide good enough protection so it was recommended they cancel the show. U2 not only refused to cancel but decided to go ahead and sing the song they had been warned not to sing, "MLK." Bono grabbed the mic, fell to his knees and closed his eyes to perform the song with a hand held toward the heavens. When he opened his eyes, he saw that Adam Clayton (not a Christian at the time) was standing in front of him to shield him from harm. Doug says he was really touched by this because obviously, the way Bono lived his life had been a witness to Clayton, so much so, that he was willing to die to protect him. Pretty cool.
MAYLENE & THE SONS OF DISASTER - Another band that I had no clue what they were going into the interview. They had been described to me as "Skynyrd-core" which was pretty impossible for me to wrap my head around. I just cant keep up with all the genres, I actually think I made up a new one the other day, "countr-emo." It is Dashboard Confessional meets Toby Keith...anyway...
These guys really won me over with their genuine hearts and straight up, backwoods, dueling banjos, Deliverance, REALNESS. One of the guys, the one with the sweetest beard (and that is saying a lot as there were some sweet beards in this band) literally asked to pause for a moment because he needed to pee. We were over at Cornerstone mainstage back by the creek (where they said they would feel the most comfortable doing the interview) and he just turned away and peed. Oh to be so free. They were like Underoath in that, they are not shy about their faith but they have not had a lot of resistance. They just do what they do and they were actually shocked anyone would even care who they were, much less sit thru a concert with them, let alone pay for it. They said it started off as a fun thing, almost as a joke, but people started to respond. When prompted to tell me about their goals they universally agreed that while it is great to spread the good word, what they would really like is to make enough money to get a nicer grill to strap to the top of their van. Great guys. Next time I hear some b-rate rocker whining about how stale his papaya on the green room fruit tray is, I am going to think happy thoughts about M&TSOD.
Tuesday, May 1, 2007
Phil Keaggy, Brandon Ebel, Zao & Bill Power
PHIL KEAGGY - Phil is a wonderful, soft-spoken guy who genuinely has no idea how good he is. He constantly brushed off the accolades when asked and frequently talked of how lucky he was to get the chance to play with certain people or meet certain people. He was also very supportive of Christians in the mainstream and even busted out a CS Lewis reference. He said, "like CS Lewis said, we dont need more Christians writing about Christian things...we need more Christians writing about MANY things." Pretty great stuff IMHO.
BRANDON EBEL (Tooth & Nail Records) - Brandon was one of the first interviews we did and at first he was pretty sheepish. Apparently he has taken a lot of flack from people over the way he runs T&N. He is cutting edge, he is signing LOTS of bands, he cant give them all great deals but he does give them a chance and artistic freedom. Much of what T&N does with their contracts, etc. has found its way into the mainstream because T&N, last I checked, was THE most successful indie label in the world. Instead of giving 5 bands a great contract, he gives 20 bands a decent contract. Those other 15 bands should be kissing his @ss because he is giving them something nobody else will. But anyway... on to the interview... Brandon is funny and knows his stuff. He might be a business man but he got into this because he loves music with a fiery passion. You would be hard pressed to name a band that he hasnt seen live or has a story about. He talked excitedly and extensively about different scenes in Christian music, mostly underground rock stuff and about the beginnings of T&N. He started the "label" in his apartment where he ran it for a while. He really took the underground scene and gave it a place on the shelf in the marketplace, pretty amazing. He was the first of MANY people to mention, "The Crucified" as an inspirational band and Cornerstone as a pivotal event. He said in no uncertain terms that there would be no T&N without the inspiration he got from how "LU-JIT" "The Crucified" were. They showed him what Christians could do with music. He also pointed out that Cornerstone helped further inspire him.
BILL POWER - (former VP T&N, Blenderhead) Most the interviews in "controlled" environments I have done on a black background but Bill is a sweet looking dude, all tatted up and his office had an awesome feel so I put on a wide angle lens and kicked it old school. He had a lot of awesome things to say about trading tapes back in the day of bands that they would not dare sell in the Christian bookstores. He is another guy that really helped defined the "scene" with his stories about different bands. He talked openly and frankly. One of the best things I think he said was that he hated the idea of "Christian" rock. His take is that music is music... and bands are bands.
ZAO - OK...so, I was a youth group kid and had no idea who these guys were but they won me over. I thought MetalCore was a Japanese comic. These are some intelligent fellows, very articulate and full of deep knowledge. They talked about how the Christian side of the industry never really understood them but honestly, they didn't seem to care. When prodded for what they thought about the Christian music business they said something that nobody else has said, "I don't think there is such a thing, it doesn't exist." When asked to elaborate they articulately spoke of how, at the end of the day, the money raised all goes to the same place, the same corporate giants, not to charity or to help people, it goes to buy cars, houses, etc. They even pointed that inward. "When we play a show, at the end of the night, that money goes into my pocket, not into a church or a Christian cause." I never really thought of that but it is a great point. After the interview I got to chatting with Martin and as it turns out we both really love this indie artist named "BLEU" he is not a Christian but check him out. http://www.bleutopia.com/
more later...
BRANDON EBEL (Tooth & Nail Records) - Brandon was one of the first interviews we did and at first he was pretty sheepish. Apparently he has taken a lot of flack from people over the way he runs T&N. He is cutting edge, he is signing LOTS of bands, he cant give them all great deals but he does give them a chance and artistic freedom. Much of what T&N does with their contracts, etc. has found its way into the mainstream because T&N, last I checked, was THE most successful indie label in the world. Instead of giving 5 bands a great contract, he gives 20 bands a decent contract. Those other 15 bands should be kissing his @ss because he is giving them something nobody else will. But anyway... on to the interview... Brandon is funny and knows his stuff. He might be a business man but he got into this because he loves music with a fiery passion. You would be hard pressed to name a band that he hasnt seen live or has a story about. He talked excitedly and extensively about different scenes in Christian music, mostly underground rock stuff and about the beginnings of T&N. He started the "label" in his apartment where he ran it for a while. He really took the underground scene and gave it a place on the shelf in the marketplace, pretty amazing. He was the first of MANY people to mention, "The Crucified" as an inspirational band and Cornerstone as a pivotal event. He said in no uncertain terms that there would be no T&N without the inspiration he got from how "LU-JIT" "The Crucified" were. They showed him what Christians could do with music. He also pointed out that Cornerstone helped further inspire him.
BILL POWER - (former VP T&N, Blenderhead) Most the interviews in "controlled" environments I have done on a black background but Bill is a sweet looking dude, all tatted up and his office had an awesome feel so I put on a wide angle lens and kicked it old school. He had a lot of awesome things to say about trading tapes back in the day of bands that they would not dare sell in the Christian bookstores. He is another guy that really helped defined the "scene" with his stories about different bands. He talked openly and frankly. One of the best things I think he said was that he hated the idea of "Christian" rock. His take is that music is music... and bands are bands.
ZAO - OK...so, I was a youth group kid and had no idea who these guys were but they won me over. I thought MetalCore was a Japanese comic. These are some intelligent fellows, very articulate and full of deep knowledge. They talked about how the Christian side of the industry never really understood them but honestly, they didn't seem to care. When prodded for what they thought about the Christian music business they said something that nobody else has said, "I don't think there is such a thing, it doesn't exist." When asked to elaborate they articulately spoke of how, at the end of the day, the money raised all goes to the same place, the same corporate giants, not to charity or to help people, it goes to buy cars, houses, etc. They even pointed that inward. "When we play a show, at the end of the night, that money goes into my pocket, not into a church or a Christian cause." I never really thought of that but it is a great point. After the interview I got to chatting with Martin and as it turns out we both really love this indie artist named "BLEU" he is not a Christian but check him out. http://www.bleutopia.com/
more later...
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